Comments on: Propane and Odor Fade http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:19:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Russ Arpasi http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1731 Russ Arpasi Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:34:45 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1731 Lightning hit the gas line coming into our house and caused a fire in the wine cellar @ the point where the gas line blew out. The fire in the cellar was hot enough to warp the steel truss and metal pan which supports the concrete above for the garage. We were not @ home when this occurred. Approximately 250 gallons of propane was released into the house. We returned after being gone for four weeks and the gauge on the gas tank was on zero. We called the gas company to come check the gas lines and fill our tank. The gas truck driver stated that he would need to send a leak crew the following week. We told him that it was impossible for us to have used that much gas in the previous four weeks as we had not even been there. We felt that there must be a huge leak somewhere. The driver proceeded to fill the tank with approximately 275 gallons of propane and left. A large majority of this new tank of gas also leaked into the house before the problem was discovered. The insurance company is attempting to clean our house and all of our belongings with an ozone treatment. It has been a month since this occurred. The smell is still there. Does anyone know how to get rid of this odor? Should we be concerned about the absorption of the gas into the wood, concrete, sheetrock, furniture, etc.? Will this continue to be a health hazard for us? We went to a doctor and have been told that our lungs are functioning @ about 1/3 of their normal capacity @ this time. We have been prescribed steroids to help with healing. We are desperate for any answers concerning the absorption of the gas/chemicals into the building components and furniture. Can this be removed along with the odor or will the gas and chemicals always be there? Also: should we seek more thorough health exams?? @ this time, we are still not residing in the house as they are using ozone treatment as their major remedy. Are there any websites that can offer assistance?? Contact Cell- 828-421-3751 Thank you Lightning hit the gas line coming into our house and caused a fire in the wine cellar @ the point where the gas line blew out. The fire in the cellar was hot enough to warp the steel truss and metal pan which supports the concrete above for the garage. We were not @ home when this occurred. Approximately 250 gallons of propane was released into the house. We returned after being gone for four weeks and the gauge on the gas tank was on zero. We called the gas company to come check the gas lines and fill our tank. The gas truck driver stated that he would need to send a leak crew the following week. We told him that it was impossible for us to have used that much gas in the previous four weeks as we had not even been there. We felt that there must be a huge leak somewhere. The driver proceeded to fill the tank with approximately 275 gallons of propane and left. A large majority of this new tank of gas also leaked into the house before the problem was discovered. The insurance company is attempting to clean our house and all of our belongings with an ozone treatment. It has been a month since this occurred. The smell is still there. Does anyone know how to get rid of this odor? Should we be concerned about the absorption of the gas into the wood, concrete, sheetrock, furniture, etc.? Will this continue to be a health hazard for us? We went to a doctor and have been told that our lungs are functioning @ about 1/3 of their normal capacity @ this time. We have been prescribed steroids to help with healing. We are desperate for any answers concerning the absorption of the gas/chemicals into the building components and furniture. Can this be removed along with the odor or will the gas and chemicals always be there? Also: should we seek more thorough health exams?? @ this time, we are still not residing in the house as they are using ozone treatment as their major remedy. Are there any websites that can offer assistance??
Contact Cell- 828-421-3751
Thank you

]]> By: Carrie http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1688 Carrie Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:15:30 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1688 My parents have propane that heats their home and also have a propane stove. When my husband and I were visiting, my mother was saying she could always smell propane and even had some guys out to the home to check but they said everything was fine. There was one day when we were there both my husband and I could smell the propane very stronge in the kitchen and I had to leave the house because it was giving me a headache and I started to feel very dizzy from it. I then believed my mother that there was something wrong. So by the time my father came home I told him of the stronge smell but it was no longer there. Can the propane smell leave but still somewhat be in the house and effect someone who has been feeling very ill for quite some time? And can it effect someone else who also lives in the home but has gotten so used to the smell they think there is nothing wrong? My parents have propane that heats their home and also have a propane stove. When my husband and I were visiting, my mother was saying she could always smell propane and even had some guys out to the home to check but they said everything was fine. There was one day when we were there both my husband and I could smell the propane very stronge in the kitchen and I had to leave the house because it was giving me a headache and I started to feel very dizzy from it. I then believed my mother that there was something wrong. So by the time my father came home I told him of the stronge smell but it was no longer there. Can the propane smell leave but still somewhat be in the house and effect someone who has been feeling very ill for quite some time? And can it effect someone else who also lives in the home but has gotten so used to the smell they think there is nothing wrong?

]]> By: Patti Nick http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1627 Patti Nick Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:36:18 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1627 The owner of a gas station across the street from my subdivision wants to expand by installing a 30,000 gal above ground bulk propane tank next to the gas station and an inventory of 6 - 12 500 gal. LP tanks for commercial sale or rental. He will be having bulk trucks refill at this site for delivery to his customers. On the other side of the street from this proposal is a developement of 30 condos and an apt. bldg. with 18 units. At the end of the street is a 70 bed nursing home. This project is at the top of a t-intersection. We could not evacuate the area if something went horribly wrong. He is requesting a Conditional Use Permit from the county to do this. What is your opinion? The owner of a gas station across the street from my subdivision wants to expand by installing a 30,000 gal above ground bulk propane tank next to the gas station and an inventory of 6 – 12 500 gal. LP tanks for commercial sale or rental. He will be having bulk trucks refill at this site for delivery to his customers. On the other side of the street from this proposal is a developement of 30 condos and an apt. bldg. with 18 units. At the end of the street is a 70 bed nursing home. This project is at the top of a t-intersection. We could not evacuate the area if something went horribly wrong. He is requesting a Conditional Use Permit from the county to do this. What is your opinion?

]]> By: Rod Allen http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1579 Rod Allen Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:23:17 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1579 I was just looking over your list of propane accidents. I was involved in a so called propane flash fire and ended up spending a week in a burn center and several months of healing which is still on going. I was fortunate enough to have the knowledge to be able to recover the gases that I was purging. After analysis it was found that I had excessive amounts of ethane in the propane mix. Its unknown the frequency of this problem in explosions as this type info is sparse. I was just looking over your list of propane accidents. I was involved in a so called propane flash fire and ended up spending a week in a burn center and several months of healing which is still on going. I was fortunate enough to have the knowledge to be able to recover the gases that I was purging. After analysis it was found that I had excessive amounts of ethane in the propane mix. Its unknown the frequency of this problem in explosions as this type info is sparse.

]]> By: Ken http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1557 Ken Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:30:20 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1557 Since there are some containers and situations in which the mercaptans do NOT break down or disappear, it seems that requiring all propane-handling equipment to be built to these standards would be a reasonable starting place. And if it isn't known what they are, there's some pretty basic science to be done - but there's no reason to expect either the science or the technology to be outrageously difficult or expensive. About the only place you CAN'T stop odor fade is propane being filtered through soil. Since there are some containers and situations in which the mercaptans do NOT break down or disappear, it seems that requiring all propane-handling equipment to be built to these standards would be a reasonable starting place. And if it isn’t known what they are, there’s some pretty basic science to be done – but there’s no reason to expect either the science or the technology to be outrageously difficult or expensive. About the only place you CAN’T stop odor fade is propane being filtered through soil.

]]> By: Michael James http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1399 Michael James Sun, 04 Jul 2010 01:50:44 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1399 I have read that if you test for leaks with a soapy substance to see any bubbles leaking, that that is fine. HOWEVER, NEVER, EVER TEST WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS AMMONIA IN IT. It will cause any copper or brass fittings to deteriorate very fast. You will end up with a deadly situation. I have read that if you test for leaks with a soapy substance to see any bubbles leaking, that that is fine.

HOWEVER, NEVER, EVER TEST WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS AMMONIA IN IT. It will cause any copper or brass fittings to deteriorate very fast. You will end up with a deadly situation.

]]> By: Ramsey http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1028 Ramsey Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:46:54 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1028 Holy hell, Bruce. Never seen that opening photo before. Glad to know you're on the case..... Holy hell, Bruce. Never seen that opening photo before. Glad to know you’re on the case…..

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