Comments on: Propane and Odor Fade http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:36:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Patti Nick http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1627 Patti Nick Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:36:18 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1627 The owner of a gas station across the street from my subdivision wants to expand by installing a 30,000 gal above ground bulk propane tank next to the gas station and an inventory of 6 - 12 500 gal. LP tanks for commercial sale or rental. He will be having bulk trucks refill at this site for delivery to his customers. On the other side of the street from this proposal is a developement of 30 condos and an apt. bldg. with 18 units. At the end of the street is a 70 bed nursing home. This project is at the top of a t-intersection. We could not evacuate the area if something went horribly wrong. He is requesting a Conditional Use Permit from the county to do this. What is your opinion? The owner of a gas station across the street from my subdivision wants to expand by installing a 30,000 gal above ground bulk propane tank next to the gas station and an inventory of 6 – 12 500 gal. LP tanks for commercial sale or rental. He will be having bulk trucks refill at this site for delivery to his customers. On the other side of the street from this proposal is a developement of 30 condos and an apt. bldg. with 18 units. At the end of the street is a 70 bed nursing home. This project is at the top of a t-intersection. We could not evacuate the area if something went horribly wrong. He is requesting a Conditional Use Permit from the county to do this. What is your opinion?

]]> By: Rod Allen http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1579 Rod Allen Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:23:17 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1579 I was just looking over your list of propane accidents. I was involved in a so called propane flash fire and ended up spending a week in a burn center and several months of healing which is still on going. I was fortunate enough to have the knowledge to be able to recover the gases that I was purging. After analysis it was found that I had excessive amounts of ethane in the propane mix. Its unknown the frequency of this problem in explosions as this type info is sparse. I was just looking over your list of propane accidents. I was involved in a so called propane flash fire and ended up spending a week in a burn center and several months of healing which is still on going. I was fortunate enough to have the knowledge to be able to recover the gases that I was purging. After analysis it was found that I had excessive amounts of ethane in the propane mix. Its unknown the frequency of this problem in explosions as this type info is sparse.

]]> By: Ken http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1557 Ken Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:30:20 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1557 Since there are some containers and situations in which the mercaptans do NOT break down or disappear, it seems that requiring all propane-handling equipment to be built to these standards would be a reasonable starting place. And if it isn't known what they are, there's some pretty basic science to be done - but there's no reason to expect either the science or the technology to be outrageously difficult or expensive. About the only place you CAN'T stop odor fade is propane being filtered through soil. Since there are some containers and situations in which the mercaptans do NOT break down or disappear, it seems that requiring all propane-handling equipment to be built to these standards would be a reasonable starting place. And if it isn’t known what they are, there’s some pretty basic science to be done – but there’s no reason to expect either the science or the technology to be outrageously difficult or expensive. About the only place you CAN’T stop odor fade is propane being filtered through soil.

]]> By: Michael James http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1399 Michael James Sun, 04 Jul 2010 01:50:44 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1399 I have read that if you test for leaks with a soapy substance to see any bubbles leaking, that that is fine. HOWEVER, NEVER, EVER TEST WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS AMMONIA IN IT. It will cause any copper or brass fittings to deteriorate very fast. You will end up with a deadly situation. I have read that if you test for leaks with a soapy substance to see any bubbles leaking, that that is fine.

HOWEVER, NEVER, EVER TEST WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS AMMONIA IN IT. It will cause any copper or brass fittings to deteriorate very fast. You will end up with a deadly situation.

]]> By: Ramsey http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1028 Ramsey Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:46:54 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1028 Holy hell, Bruce. Never seen that opening photo before. Glad to know you're on the case..... Holy hell, Bruce. Never seen that opening photo before. Glad to know you’re on the case…..

]]> By: Bruce http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1017 Bruce Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:36:06 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1017 It's hard to say. I'm not a propane expert or an engineer. A propane system can be tested for leaks, which I presume was done by person who came out to your house. If you aren't confident of that person's assessment, have your system checked by a qualified technician recommended by your propane distributor. It could be that you have a batch of propane that is heavily odorized, or that you have a very sensitive sense of smell. The best way to ease your worries is by installing a propane detector, which goes in the lowest spot in your house -- a basement or crawlspace, if you have one. It’s hard to say. I’m not a propane expert or an engineer. A propane system can be tested for leaks, which I presume was done by person who came out to your house. If you aren’t confident of that person’s assessment, have your system checked by a qualified technician recommended by your propane distributor. It could be that you have a batch of propane that is heavily odorized, or that you have a very sensitive sense of smell. The best way to ease your worries is by installing a propane detector, which goes in the lowest spot in your house — a basement or crawlspace, if you have one.

]]> By: Brooke Brockbank http://brucegoldfarb.com/propane-and-odor-fade/comment-page-1#comment-1008 Brooke Brockbank Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:39:01 +0000 http://brucegoldfarb.com/?p=28#comment-1008 We live in a rural area and have a propane tank- only for fireplace. A few days after we installed the propane tank we smelled propane if we were standing right next to the fireplace. It was very strong. We called and had someone come check it out- when they got there the smell was not present anymore (of course), but they did many tests on all the pipes and said they were convinced there was no such leak. They also said that maybe we smelled something, but propane would sink and that it would be near the floor and not in the area around the fireplace. Well the smell keeps coming back very strong- it is the propane smell, but whenever I smell the floor, i smell nothing. Should I be concerned. Sometimes I can smell it when I walk in the room. But again it is never around the floor by the fireplace. Can you ease my worries about this? We live in a rural area and have a propane tank- only for fireplace. A few days after we installed the propane tank we smelled propane if we were standing right next to the fireplace. It was very strong. We called and had someone come check it out- when they got there the smell was not present anymore (of course), but they did many tests on all the pipes and said they were convinced there was no such leak. They also said that maybe we smelled something, but propane would sink and that it would be near the floor and not in the area around the fireplace. Well the smell keeps coming back very strong- it is the propane smell, but whenever I smell the floor, i smell nothing. Should I be concerned. Sometimes I can smell it when I walk in the room. But again it is never around the floor by the fireplace. Can you ease my worries about this?

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